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Now I am going to miss some of the code sprint on Friday at the Chicago DrupalCon. I began asking about real dates of London months ago and now I am left without a choice but to ask publically: when IS DrupalCon London including core conversation, sprints, whatnot? Some of us need the dates many months ahead to be able to plan and it's extremely frustrating 'cos I am 100% these dates are known.
Ps. I deleted a number of "check their website" comments. See, the Chicago website posts March 7-10 on the front page, under schedule you find March 8-10 and only if you find the 'event schedule' link you can find the 11th. So please don't direct me to the London website which has even less information.
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Welcome to the club. I also had to click through the entire DC Chicago site to figure out the actual dates. Not to mention that I had to ask in IRC to understand where the venue of DC Chicago is — really, I wasn't interested in the hotel and accommodations.
We can and should improve the situation for future events. It's past twelve for building a proper, uniform, and optimized installation profile for Drupal events. People can plug different designs for each site, but it's terribly annoying that we're re-inventing site structures, features, research on audience as well as user needs and behavior, schedules and other applications every. single. time. from. scratch. without learning from the past.
sun
Thats what happens when the suits take over... The accomodation and paid training becomes the core of the drupalcon
DC Chicago is going to have more than 3,000 attendees. The organizers, including members of the Drupal Association, local Chicago companies and individuals have been planning it for more than a year.
It's not that the "suits take over" and then the full dates aren't posted in the most obvious spot because, what, the "suits" don't want to? That's ridiculous. These things, and in particular the website, are complex and often have many hands doing the work and content, so it's more likely human error than "suits".
-Ben
As one of the "suits" involved in planning DrupalCon Chicago, I can tell you without question that community involvement and community-provided content is one of the top priorities of the conference. You can read more about some of the ways that we're focusing on session content at http://association.drupal.org/node/694
The early focus on getting folks to stay in the Drupal Tower was due to room booking commitments we had with the Sheraton in Chicago. By having enough folks stay in the hotel, we're able to sharply reduce the venue costs and keep the conference more affordable for more attendees. Even still, the registration fee does not fully cover the costs of attendee at DrupalCon, which is why we rely on things like sponsorships and paid training to subsidize the rest of the cost. If we did not have those things, DrupalCon registration fees would have to double or even triple in order for the conference to break even, an outcome we'd obviously like to avoid.
Trainers do not take home all of the fees charged for pre-conference training sessions; they are split with the conference, which also covers the costs for the venue, refreshments, and other costs. We also agree to promote these training sessions, which in addition to helping support the conference also provide in-depth exposure to various topics that can't be easily covered in a single hour-long session.
To be clear, any revenue generated by DrupalCon goes right back into the Drupal community, helping to fund other events and keep drupal.org running as well as support other things like the drupal.org redesign and Git migration.
With regard to the concern that started this conversation about the dates of DrupalCon, I'm sorry that some folks are missing out on the post-conference sprint because they didn't see the event schedule page, and we'll work on making that more prominent. When promoting the dates of the conference, we followed the lead of DrupalCon San Francisco, which also did not include the post-conference sprint date in their promotional efforts. Obviously, this has led to some confusion, and we'll work on making sure we do a better job moving forward of highlighting the fact that the sprints occur on March 11.
- George DeMet, DrupalCon Chicago co-chair
The DrupalCon Chicago site is using the Conference Organizing Distribution (COD) - http://drupal.org/planet/cod
Patches welcome
-davereid
Oops. http://drupal.org/project/cod
-davereid
That said, I think this is about as much a PEBKAC issue as it is a content issue.
In my ideal world there would be one schedule page and it would list everything: pre-events, sessions, post-events, night events, etc. Or, a "schedule" section with subpages and side navigation for all those things.
- greggles
True. My response is mostly to "It's past twelve for building a proper, uniform, and optimized installation profile for Drupal events. People can plug different designs for each site, but it's terribly annoying that we're re-inventing site structures, features, research on audience as well as user needs and behavior, schedules and other applications every. single. time. from. scratch. without learning from the past."
-davereid
Thanks for posting a support issue on the Drupal Planet...
http://sf2010.drupal.org/
Dates listed on frontpage: April 19th - April 21st 2010
Code sprints: 18th & 22nd
This is nothing new. There is always a 'Session schedule' and a 'Conference schedule' that are different pages.
You (and almost everyone else) missed the fact that Chicago posted March *7* on the frontpage and it is NOT a session day... therefore tradition does not apply.
Also all ten comments did not give me a freakin' date for London.